Vintage Road Racing Association

He doesn't get on here very often.You will have to be patient.

Brad

Have had my second brush with an F7 - the price is higher than I want to pay, considering I'll be discarding most of it and... the transmission had so much water in it, the oil had turned milky...
Oh well - there's still my daughter's 175 twin if I change a few things on it to make it P1-legal...
Pat

Hello Pat,
Thanks for the email, as Brad said I am rather slow on the forum....( & the track). I have yet to dig out the project as the street Daytona is still on the stand. It should be done in a couple of weeks, then I will see what I can do with the F7. I also got a set of 32 mikunis for my race daytona, does anybody know where I should start with jetting? It has DG pipes, some transfer port work & not much else...the stock carbs ran well at 250 mains.
Cheers, Col

No sweat Colin,
When you dig into the F7 a bit and see what you need, let me know what you feel like discarding. As I said, just a (more or less complete) motor would be a place to start.
Pat.

Here we go...got a mock-up started.




Machining the front hub.




The front end is coming off a Honda enduro. The only change was to remove the F7 stem and weld it into the Honda lower triple.



The swap meet in Barber yielded some goodies

Ya gotta leave the decal on the gas tank Rick.
Pat.

Subtitle: "Pat's search for a P1-200 Bike is Over...for Now"
Was perilously close to driving up to Arnprior to check out an F7 in pretty rough condition when a project bike presented itself to me this afternoon. The seller and I have come to "an agreement" and if all goes well should have it in my realm Tuesday night.
On the down side, I sold almost all of my racing parts along with an identical bike a couple of years ago and now have to start beating the bushes again for 50+ year-old go-fast parts.
But what the hell, it'll be another P1-200 bike on the grid, which was of course the object of the exercise, even if the thing will probably be the slowest one out there (especially with me on it LOL).
Wish me luck.
Pat

Hey Pat, Glad to hear you were successful in your quest for a P1 bike.Now the big question.
What did you come up with?

Brad

Progress on the swap meet front wheel

I picked up my wee beauty last night. Carried it down from the guy's attic and consequently, am taking pain killers for my neck and back today. Engine in a box - ah a seized piston, how lovely! A gas tank so rusty, it sounded like maraccas when I shook it.
How she glistened in the moonlight - her purple metalflake paint job peeling off the frame like a snake shedding its skin and apehanger handlebars so tall, they looked to be longer than the swingarm - but perfect for the tiedowns to hook onto. The pair of yellow spotlights slung low on the front forks was the crowning styling touch - or maybe coup de gras, I dunno. They matched perfectly with the white naugahyde seat cover, which I tore off this morning to find the original Honda seat cover underneath it in great condition. The seat's probably the best part of the bike and I can't use it LOL.
No restorer would have touched this bike in a million years, that's for sure - so it's perfect to make a race bike from. Needs a rebuild but a lot cheaper than a couple of bikes I was offered and I can probably sell off some of the redundant parts to a restorer. I'm still amazed that just because a bike is old(er), sellers think it's worth a ton of money, regardless of the condition, but this one fit the budget perfectly.
On another subject, outstanding front wheel Rick. The shouldered Akront wheel I have, looks like it was chewed on by wolverines - but it's a real Akront, so I guess I better polish the basta up the best I can. I'm using a Yam 350 DLS for mine unless I can find another CB72/77 front brake to keep it in the family.
Right now, my plan is to make the bike look exactly how you would have seen it on the track about 1963.
Wish me luck; I think I'm gonna need it.
Pat

As a bit of an update as to what the heck R U building Pat?, it's going to be a "stand off" or ersatz (fake) replica of the CB92 / CB92R Honda twins that were built from 1959 through 1964.
For sure I can't afford a real one or any CYB race parts - a late model restored CB92 sold for 8000 GBP - or the better part of $13,000 Canadian and a first year (super rare) unrestored bike, was for sale in the UK for 18,000 pounds awhile ago. I stopped looking for CYB parts after I saw a seat for sale for around a grand US and a set of megs for over 1200 bucks.
As I noted in an earlier post, I sold a similar project about 3-1/2 years ago when the recession bit me hard. Some neat stuff went with it - special valves and springs I got from the UK that were good well over 12,000 rpm, some higher compression pistons and a bunch of engine rebuild parts. And both of my CB72/77 front brakes, which are the same diameter as the CB92 but need a little machining to marry up to the front end.
The only demon tweek I have left from the original project is a 22mm Keihin from a CB72 Hawk, which I'll use.
If you get a chance, google CB92 and CB92R - there are some great pictures and articles about the bike.
Pat.

I don't know who's thread this is Ricks? Colins or Pats
but check these out Pat
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-1968-CB17 ... 1218968%26

Nice looking pipes to be sure, but for the next gen motor after mine and as I said, going for the "1963" look - which means two really long, really skinny megs for the exhaust.
Who else has or is working on a P1-200? Or is it Rick, Colin and me? Wow, my first year of racing and I'll always place LOL.
Pat

I need to build a set of wheels for my 175 OSSA.
Currently #3 on the to do list.... Might get to it by the
end of May at this rate...
Mat

What size rims are you running and what tires?
My shouldered front is a WM1X18 that was running a 3.00 tire and I have a TD1 rear wheel with a WM1X18, which was the factory-correct rim for the early ones at least.
It looks like I need a front brake with a left side backing plate to use the CA92 link so the Yam wheel I have is out. I have a couple of other hubs with a left side plate so probably a relace and truing in my future as well as skimming the drum.
Pat.