Vintage Road Racing Association

I understand through the rumour mill that there will be a BOTT race at Calabogie. What bikes are eligible, and what year is the cutoff?

Any insight would be appreciated

There are three classes within the BOTT moniker, heavyweight, middleweight and lightweight.

Heavy - all four stroke twins from 800cc to 1100cc
Supersport 900, RC51, VTR1000, 851, 888, 916
Virago 920, Virago 1100, TDR850

Middleweight - all four stroke twins from 500cc to 750cc
EX500, NT650, SV650, Vision 550, Paso 750, Panta 650, F1 750
CB500T, XS650, GS550, TX750

Lightweight - all four stroke twins up to 480cc
EX250, EX300, EX400, CB305, CB350, CB450
Seca 400, KZ440, GS400,

More info about this change will be posted shortly.


Timothy Sauder
Competition Coordinator

Does that mean that a 2019 EX400 is eligible for the lightweight class?

Timothy Sauder wrote:There are three classes within the BOTT moniker, heavyweight, middleweight and lightweight.

Heavy - all four stroke twins from 800cc to 1100cc
Supersport 900, RC51, VTR1000, 851, 888, 916
Virago 920, Virago 1100, TDR850

Middleweight - all four stroke twins from 500cc to 750cc
EX500, NT650, SV650, Vision 550, Paso 750, Panta 650, F1 750
CB500T, XS650, GS550, TX750

Lightweight - all four stroke twins up to 480cc
EX250, EX300, EX400, CB305, CB350, CB450
Seca 400, KZ440, GS400,

More info about this change will be posted shortly.


Timothy Sauder
Competition Coordinator

No

This info is posted in the description of the Modern lightweight classes in RaceDay when registering for any of the four events.
Up to 390cc four stroke four cylinder machines
Up to 500cc four stroke two cylinder machines
Up to 650cc four stroke single cylinder machines.

This discussion is also about the BOTT race at Bogie and has nothing to do with Modern Lightweight.

Will all three of these races be running at the same time??

Yes it is one time slot on the schedule.

Davelaporte221 wrote:Yes it is one time slot on the schedule.

As very much a lover of twins and singles, I really do think a battle of the twins could be a really great idea if structured safely and appropriately.

However, do we really think it is a good idea to potentially have a 28hp Honda CB77 out there racing a sprint race at the same time as a 136hp RC51 on a track with multiple crests and tight corners??

This looks as it could be a recipe for catastrophe.

Kevin

That same bike can run in Open Jr with the same concerns.

You can play “what if” but the likelihood is that the owner of that bike is not registering for that race.

Trying to get my SV back together for this. I had to cannibalise a bunch of bits of it for the endurance bike bit it will fit nicely into Middle

Can you run a 97 748 in middleweight?
Thanks

Paul

Paul,

Yes

Davelaporte221 wrote:No

This info is posted in the description of the Modern lightweight classes in RaceDay when registering for any of the four events.
Up to 390cc four stroke four cylinder machines
Up to 500cc four stroke two cylinder machines
Up to 650cc four stroke single cylinder machines.

This discussion is also about the BOTT race at Bogie and has nothing to do with Modern Lightweight.

Unless there is a year cutoff my 400 is a twin so it would fit in the lightweight twins class.

400 twin fits the BOTT

Dave

I initially liked the idea of a battle of the twins race but having reviewed the eligible motorcycles it doesn't make sense to me. A modern 300 vs a 1981 KZ 440 , no comparison. IMHO this race should be limited to P4.A better match would be a 87' CBX 250 VS a cb 450 or KZ 440.

darlington wrote:I initially liked the idea of a battle of the twins race but having reviewed the eligible motorcycles it doesn't make sense to me. A modern 300 vs a 1981 KZ 440 , no comparison. IMHO this race should be limited to P4.A better match would be a 87' CBX 250 VS a cb 450 or KZ 440.

I think the idea here is to make this as inclusive as possible. This is no one's primary class - it's simply more racing, and more fun.

Will my 650 Hawk be competitive in Middleweight against Ducati 748s? Not a chance. However, I'm looking forward to beating all my buddies with Hawks!