I'm a little confused here, were the technical rules not frozen by a vote years ago with only the possibility of being unfrozen by a vote? How was a rule change done in period 3? I built a period 3 bike using the correct period gear, and now I see that a superior remote reservoir master cylinder is ...
P1 LEGAL CB450 Racebike with Henning motor - For sale Bought a couple of years back and have not dedicated the time to get it going. - Engine is saddled in a custom twin down tube frame by an unknown builder and has a fiberglass tank, tail and full fairing. - Comes with two engines, one stock engine...
...The previous Endurance Coordinator has stated the goals as follows: 1. To allow any machine in the club to have the opportunity to race endurance. Growing the field. 2. Allow the fastest teams to be the ones that finish first. Regardless of what machine they choose to enter on. These goals have ...
I have been been watching this debate (if you want to call it that) for a few days now. Seems there is some friction being built up and that friction may not be healthy moving the club forward. There is always room for improvement so I am not taking either side but I may suggest that we carry over ...
Kirby, You acknowledge that single data points should not be used to justify a position and yet once again this is your argument to justify your position. You ignore the fact that 3 of the P4F3 records for example are set by a current Pro CSBK rider who was riding a Miller prepared Hawkzilla which ...
Again- what was the goal for the change? The goal of the handicap system was to grow participation. The idea that people would be more likely to participate on whatever machine they already owned and still feel like they had a shot. Not go out and buy a new machine to stay competitive. This was the...
After looking at the data provided - still without any explanation as to what the goal of revamping endurance was...... Here is my analysis of the file provided. You are cherry picking data and using too small of sample size to really have any hope of accuracy. Thats why lap records were previously...
I don't think non VRRA class bikes should be taking trophies away from VRRA class bikes.... Add it as a separate class. Open- well that's a little different. It's not a native class for any bike. If they are running in the regular classes- should there not be a handicap for that too then? Another b...
I've had it. Enough of the topdown leadership and lack of communication to the membership from our current president. What else are we not being told? Was there a majority of endurance racers (let alone VRRA members in general) asking for a revamp of the endurance handicapping system? Answer: no. I...
The original proposal was to remove handicaps for P3, P4 and P5. I am against removing handicaps. The same team and tactics should always be faster on a later period bike. The exec meeting when we discussed the endurance proposal, among other items, was over 2 hours long. After much discussion a 1%...
So a p3 middle is only 1 sec per lap slower than a p5 middle at mosport with the same rider? Sorry this makes zero sense. You might as well just eliminate handicaps and run what you brung. The original plan was a slight tilt in favour to older machinery to get people out on track. Your current plan...
This makes no sense. Are you saying that a P3L bike is doing effectively the same time as a P4-F3 bike, the only difference is 0.01%. Can you post the data that is behind this?
I second that, this makes anyone planning to race a p3 light bike immediately rethink it.
Brian, I think we're beating a bit of a dead horse here. Many, many riders are running 165 slicks on 4.5" rims in our club, myself being one of them. Whether the bike is 350 or 400lbs shouldn't really make a huge difference, but may required you to run a little more tire pressure. I'm also VERY...
I understand there are rule changes possibly happening for the endurance series in 2024z Can the details be shared so the membership can plan accordingly? Thanks Something strikes me as odd here. If the class rules and handicaps for endurance are written in section 8 of the rule book, and the rules...